Reporting

  • Posted by Dave Timmann on February 8, 2024 at 3:05 pm

    I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

    Thanks, friends.

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    Dave Timmann
    Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
    University of South Florida
    Tampa FL
    (813) 974-0042
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    Brian Holifield replied 2 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • krisday

    Member
    February 26, 2024 at 5:05 pm

    Dave –

    At U of Michigan-Dearborn, we report through Facilities. Let me know if you want to chat or want more details!

    Kris

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    Kristine Day
    Associate Director, University Unions & Events
    University of Michigan Dearborn
    Dearborn MI
    (313) 593-5152
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    Original Message:
    Sent: 02-08-2024 15:04
    From: Dave Timmann
    Subject: Reporting

    I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

    Thanks, friends.

    ——————————
    Dave Timmann
    Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
    University of South Florida
    Tampa FL
    (813) 974-0042
    ——————————

    • Brian Holifield

      Member
      February 28, 2024 at 1:25 pm

      Hi Dave,

      I have an interesting story. When I first was hired as a Night/Weekend Operations Manager at the Student Center at DePaul, we started as part of Student Affairs. Years later, our department moved into Facility Operations. This was the case for most of my career.

      Then in January 2023 we moved back to Student Affairs and this is currently my division. So, I know how it is being in both areas.?

      How we reported in Facility Operations was that the Student Center Director at DePaul was one of many direct reports to the VP of Facility Operations.?

      If you have any specific questions about how things worked as a member of Facilites, I would be happy to discuss more with you. Please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks.

      Brian

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      Brian Holifield
      Assistant Director of Operations
      DePaul University
      Chicago IL
      (773) 325-4081
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      Original Message:
      Sent: 02-26-2024 17:04
      From: Kristine Day
      Subject: Reporting

      Dave –

      At U of Michigan-Dearborn, we report through Facilities. Let me know if you want to chat or want more details!

      Kris

      ——————————
      Kristine Day
      Associate Director, University Unions & Events
      University of Michigan Dearborn
      Dearborn MI
      (313) 593-5152
      ——————————

      Original Message:
      Sent: 02-08-2024 15:04
      From: Dave Timmann
      Subject: Reporting

      I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

      Thanks, friends.

      ——————————
      Dave Timmann
      Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
      University of South Florida
      Tampa FL
      (813) 974-0042
      ——————————

      • Dave Timmann

        Member
        February 29, 2024 at 8:04 am

        I’d be interested to know what to pros and cons were of that reporting. Thank you Brian.

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        Dave Timmann
        Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
        University of South Florida
        Tampa FL
        (813) 974-0042
        ——————————
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        Original Message:
        Sent: 02-28-2024 13:25
        From: Brian Holifield
        Subject: Reporting

        Hi Dave,

        I have an interesting story. When I first was hired as a Night/Weekend Operations Manager at the Student Center at DePaul, we started as part of Student Affairs. Years later, our department moved into Facility Operations. This was the case for most of my career.

        Then in January 2023 we moved back to Student Affairs and this is currently my division. So, I know how it is being in both areas. 

        How we reported in Facility Operations was that the Student Center Director at DePaul was one of many direct reports to the VP of Facility Operations. 

        If you have any specific questions about how things worked as a member of Facilites, I would be happy to discuss more with you. Please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks.

        Brian

        ——————————
        Brian Holifield
        Assistant Director of Operations
        DePaul University
        Chicago IL
        (773) 325-4081
        ——————————

        Original Message:
        Sent: 02-26-2024 17:04
        From: Kristine Day
        Subject: Reporting

        Dave –

        At U of Michigan-Dearborn, we report through Facilities. Let me know if you want to chat or want more details!

        Kris

        ——————————
        Kristine Day
        Associate Director, University Unions & Events
        University of Michigan Dearborn
        Dearborn MI
        (313) 593-5152

        Original Message:
        Sent: 02-08-2024 15:04
        From: Dave Timmann
        Subject: Reporting

        I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

        Thanks, friends.

        ——————————
        Dave Timmann
        Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
        University of South Florida
        Tampa FL
        (813) 974-0042
        ——————————

        • Brian Holifield

          Member
          March 1, 2024 at 11:15 am

          Dave,

          Sure. I will list them by area:

          Facility Operations

          Pros:

          Less of a grey area. Had more decisive decisions regarding potential event issues, etc.

          Good work relationship with all of the carpenters, electricians, and trades. If we needed an instant issue fixed, it was much easier to navigate.

          Good work relationship with Campus Security who also is under Facility Operations.?

          Much smoother follow up/closing the loop on when facility issues took place and how they are solved.?

          At times costs were waived more when additional work for events were needed – Additional custodians etc.?

          Cons:

          Had to provide more of an explanation when grey areas took place in our building. Many times, if a challenging event is taking place that needed an all hands on deck approach, most of the trades did not understand and would question the reasons why.?

          How events went are not as high on importance as how events looked.?

          Spent much more time on the floor checking to make sure VIP events went flawless both in how the space looked and how the restrooms, common areas, and other areas looked.

          Student Affairs

          Pros

          More importance and awareness on the development and overall well-being of our Student Employees.

          More events to get to know other colleagues in the division.?

          A bigger encouragement of collaboration in roles for the better good of the entire division.?

          Cons

          At times it is challenging to explain to colleagues how Facility issues (heating/cooling) are not always an easy or straightforward fix. When you know the answer to an issue will be a no, yet the client wants to involve higher leadership in exploration of the issue.?

          More challenges by clients or colleagues about how events are impacted when you need to abide by city and building codes as a facility manager.?

          Being charged more from Facility Operations for events requests (that perhaps were waived previously).?

          Having to be the one to be asked questions if clients know you previously worked in Facility Operations. Some events still think you represent Facility Operations as a spokesperson. This includes getting the bulk of complaints.

          More meetings.

          A higher duty to make sure division events go well even though events planning is not a primary duty.?

          Hopefully this list works for you. I don’t think one division is better than the other, however they are much different in operation from each other.? If I need to elaborate on anything, feel free to let me know. Thanks.

          Brian

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          Brian Holifield
          Assistant Director of Operations
          DePaul University
          Chicago IL
          (773) 325-4081
          ——————————
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          Original Message:
          Sent: 02-29-2024 08:04
          From: Dave Timmann
          Subject: Reporting

          I’d be interested to know what to pros and cons were of that reporting. Thank you Brian.

          ——————————
          Dave Timmann
          Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
          University of South Florida
          Tampa FL
          (813) 974-0042
          ——————————

          Original Message:
          Sent: 02-28-2024 13:25
          From: Brian Holifield
          Subject: Reporting

          Hi Dave,

          I have an interesting story. When I first was hired as a Night/Weekend Operations Manager at the Student Center at DePaul, we started as part of Student Affairs. Years later, our department moved into Facility Operations. This was the case for most of my career.

          Then in January 2023 we moved back to Student Affairs and this is currently my division. So, I know how it is being in both areas.?

          How we reported in Facility Operations was that the Student Center Director at DePaul was one of many direct reports to the VP of Facility Operations.?

          If you have any specific questions about how things worked as a member of Facilites, I would be happy to discuss more with you. Please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks.

          Brian

          ——————————
          Brian Holifield
          Assistant Director of Operations
          DePaul University
          Chicago IL
          (773) 325-4081

          Original Message:
          Sent: 02-26-2024 17:04
          From: Kristine Day
          Subject: Reporting

          Dave –

          At U of Michigan-Dearborn, we report through Facilities. Let me know if you want to chat or want more details!

          Kris

          ——————————
          Kristine Day
          Associate Director, University Unions & Events
          University of Michigan Dearborn
          Dearborn MI
          (313) 593-5152

          Original Message:
          Sent: 02-08-2024 15:04
          From: Dave Timmann
          Subject: Reporting

          I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

          Thanks, friends.

          ——————————
          Dave Timmann
          Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
          University of South Florida
          Tampa FL
          (813) 974-0042
          ——————————

    • Dave Timmann

      Member
      February 29, 2024 at 8:03 am

      Thank you Kris.

      ——————————
      Dave Timmann
      Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
      University of South Florida
      Tampa FL
      (813) 974-0042
      ——————————
      ——————————————-
      Original Message:
      Sent: 02-26-2024 17:04
      From: Kristine Day
      Subject: Reporting

      Dave –

      At U of Michigan-Dearborn, we report through Facilities. Let me know if you want to chat or want more details!

      Kris

      ——————————
      Kristine Day
      Associate Director, University Unions & Events
      University of Michigan Dearborn
      Dearborn MI
      (313) 593-5152
      ——————————

      Original Message:
      Sent: 02-08-2024 15:04
      From: Dave Timmann
      Subject: Reporting

      I posted a question not long ago about student unions/centers reporting to aux services. New question; is anyone familiar with a model where the union reports through campus facilities?

      Thanks, friends.

      ——————————
      Dave Timmann
      Associate Director for Operations, Marshall Student Center
      University of South Florida
      Tampa FL
      (813) 974-0042
      ——————————

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