Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

  • Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

    Posted by lrradtke@d.umn.edu on January 26, 2022 at 5:52 pm

    Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!? We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?? Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

    Thank you!

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    Lesa Radtke
    Associate Director of Events and Conferences
    University of Minnesota?Duluth
    Duluth MN
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    Kelly Schaefer replied 3 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • jpelletier

    Member
    January 26, 2022 at 6:07 pm

    Hi Lesa-
    We are in a similar position of needing to review and potentially update rates after many years of rate stability!

    When we originally established our rates, we benchmarked with other event venues on campus, in the Columbus area, and to some extent with comparable institutions within ACUI. There are some geographical differences that would impact that latter group, but the localized comparisons were helpful.

    We also have three rates as you outlined, so our standard/external rates were what we compared, with the applicable discounts from there for university users and student organizations.?

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    Jeff Pelletier, MA, MBOE, LSSBB
    Ohio Union Director
    The Ohio State University
    Columbus, OH
    614-292-3290
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    Original Message:
    Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
    From: Lesa Radtke
    Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

    Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

    Thank you!

    ——————————
    Lesa Radtke
    Associate Director of Events and Conferences
    University of Minnesota?Duluth
    Duluth MN
    ——————————

    • lrradtke@d.umn.edu

      Member
      January 27, 2022 at 3:36 pm

      Thank you for your response, Jeff.? This is very helpful to our analysis!

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      Lesa Radtke
      Associate Director of Events and Conferences
      University of Minnesota?Duluth
      Duluth MN
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      Original Message:
      Sent: 01-26-2022 18:07
      From: Jeff Pelletier
      Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

      Hi Lesa-
      We are in a similar position of needing to review and potentially update rates after many years of rate stability!

      When we originally established our rates, we benchmarked with other event venues on campus, in the Columbus area, and to some extent with comparable institutions within ACUI. There are some geographical differences that would impact that latter group, but the localized comparisons were helpful.

      We also have three rates as you outlined, so our standard/external rates were what we compared, with the applicable discounts from there for university users and student organizations. 

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      Jeff Pelletier, MA, MBOE, LSSBB
      Ohio Union Director
      The Ohio State University
      Columbus, OH
      614-292-3290
      ——————————

      Original Message:
      Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
      From: Lesa Radtke
      Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

      Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

      Thank you!

      ——————————
      Lesa Radtke
      Associate Director of Events and Conferences
      University of Minnesota?Duluth
      Duluth MN
      ——————————

  • madfil

    Member
    January 26, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    Hi Lesa – Back at the ACUI 2016 New Orleans Annual Conference, I went to a great session that covered calculating cost/sqft to determine daily room cost. While I have the spreadsheet that was used I cannot find the presenter information so if anyone else reading this remembers please give the credit to that person. The short of it is, figure out:

    Yearly overhead costs / total rentable sq footage = yearly cost per sqft

    Yearly cost per sqft / rentable days per year = daily operating cost per sqft

    Daily operating cost per sqft * room sqft = daily room cost

    We have 5 tiers of rates based on single use, so whether you use the room for 1 hour or 8 hours you pay the same rate. The multiplier is in (). External Profit, non-profit (0.6), affiliated (alumni) (0.4), internal (0.2), students (0). Hope this helps.

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    Filip Pongratz
    Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
    He/His/Him

    215.707.4362 (p)
    http://www.temple.edu/sfc
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    Original Message:
    Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
    From: Lesa Radtke
    Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

    Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

    Thank you!

    ——————————
    Lesa Radtke
    Associate Director of Events and Conferences
    University of Minnesota?Duluth
    Duluth MN
    ——————————

    • lrradtke@d.umn.edu

      Member
      January 27, 2022 at 3:44 pm

      I appreciate your response, Filip ~ I’m thrilled to know that we have been going down the right path in terms of a cost per square foot calculation. The formula and spreadsheet you shared are going to help immensely (a huge thank you to the presenter as well!) .? Did you factor in 100% of all costs for your student center or just those (or percentage of all costs) that applied to reservable space and events and conferences?? ?

      Thank you!

      ——————————
      Lesa Radtke
      Associate Director of Events and Conferences
      University of Minnesota?Duluth
      Duluth MN
      ——————————
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      Original Message:
      Sent: 01-26-2022 22:04
      From: Filip Pongratz
      Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

      Hi Lesa – Back at the ACUI 2016 New Orleans Annual Conference, I went to a great session that covered calculating cost/sqft to determine daily room cost. While I have the spreadsheet that was used I cannot find the presenter information so if anyone else reading this remembers please give the credit to that person. The short of it is, figure out:

      Yearly overhead costs / total rentable sq footage = yearly cost per sqft

      Yearly cost per sqft / rentable days per year = daily operating cost per sqft

      Daily operating cost per sqft * room sqft = daily room cost

      We have 5 tiers of rates based on single use, so whether you use the room for 1 hour or 8 hours you pay the same rate. The multiplier is in (). External Profit, non-profit (0.6), affiliated (alumni) (0.4), internal (0.2), students (0). Hope this helps.

      ——————————
      Filip Pongratz
      Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
      He/His/Him

      215.707.4362 (p)
      http://www.temple.edu/sfc
      ——————————

      Original Message:
      Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
      From: Lesa Radtke
      Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

      Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

      Thank you!

      ——————————
      Lesa Radtke
      Associate Director of Events and Conferences
      University of Minnesota?Duluth
      Duluth MN
      ——————————

      • madfil

        Member
        January 27, 2022 at 3:54 pm

        Hope it helps! I only factored in costs for reservable spaces with the exception of security. My office pays 100% of security costs despite multiple other departments being in the building. So I added that in as well.

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        Filip Pongratz
        Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
        He/His/Him

        215.707.4362 (p)
        http://www.temple.edu/sfc
        ——————————
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        Original Message:
        Sent: 01-27-2022 15:44
        From: Lesa Radtke
        Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

        I appreciate your response, Filip ~ I’m thrilled to know that we have been going down the right path in terms of a cost per square foot calculation. The formula and spreadsheet you shared are going to help immensely (a huge thank you to the presenter as well!) .  Did you factor in 100% of all costs for your student center or just those (or percentage of all costs) that applied to reservable space and events and conferences?   

        Thank you!

        ——————————
        Lesa Radtke
        Associate Director of Events and Conferences
        University of Minnesota?Duluth
        Duluth MN
        ——————————

        Original Message:
        Sent: 01-26-2022 22:04
        From: Filip Pongratz
        Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

        Hi Lesa – Back at the ACUI 2016 New Orleans Annual Conference, I went to a great session that covered calculating cost/sqft to determine daily room cost. While I have the spreadsheet that was used I cannot find the presenter information so if anyone else reading this remembers please give the credit to that person. The short of it is, figure out:

        Yearly overhead costs / total rentable sq footage = yearly cost per sqft

        Yearly cost per sqft / rentable days per year = daily operating cost per sqft

        Daily operating cost per sqft * room sqft = daily room cost

        We have 5 tiers of rates based on single use, so whether you use the room for 1 hour or 8 hours you pay the same rate. The multiplier is in (). External Profit, non-profit (0.6), affiliated (alumni) (0.4), internal (0.2), students (0). Hope this helps.

        ——————————
        Filip Pongratz
        Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
        He/His/Him

        215.707.4362 (p)
        http://www.temple.edu/sfc

        Original Message:
        Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
        From: Lesa Radtke
        Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

        Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

        Thank you!

        ——————————
        Lesa Radtke
        Associate Director of Events and Conferences
        University of Minnesota?Duluth
        Duluth MN
        ——————————

        • Kelly Schaefer

          Member
          September 9, 2022 at 6:57 pm

          @Michael McKean – this thread and resource might help you with your question about space calculations. Kelly??

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          Kelly Schaefer
          Assistant Vice President for Student Engagement
          Northwestern University
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          Original Message:
          Sent: 01-27-2022 15:53
          From: Filip Pongratz
          Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

          Hope it helps! I only factored in costs for reservable spaces with the exception of security. My office pays 100% of security costs despite multiple other departments being in the building. So I added that in as well.

          ——————————
          Filip Pongratz
          Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
          He/His/Him

          215.707.4362 (p)
          http://www.temple.edu/sfc
          ——————————

          Original Message:
          Sent: 01-27-2022 15:44
          From: Lesa Radtke
          Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

          I appreciate your response, Filip ~ I’m thrilled to know that we have been going down the right path in terms of a cost per square foot calculation. The formula and spreadsheet you shared are going to help immensely (a huge thank you to the presenter as well!) .  Did you factor in 100% of all costs for your student center or just those (or percentage of all costs) that applied to reservable space and events and conferences?   

          Thank you!

          ——————————
          Lesa Radtke
          Associate Director of Events and Conferences
          University of Minnesota?Duluth
          Duluth MN

          Original Message:
          Sent: 01-26-2022 22:04
          From: Filip Pongratz
          Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

          Hi Lesa – Back at the ACUI 2016 New Orleans Annual Conference, I went to a great session that covered calculating cost/sqft to determine daily room cost. While I have the spreadsheet that was used I cannot find the presenter information so if anyone else reading this remembers please give the credit to that person. The short of it is, figure out:

          Yearly overhead costs / total rentable sq footage = yearly cost per sqft

          Yearly cost per sqft / rentable days per year = daily operating cost per sqft

          Daily operating cost per sqft * room sqft = daily room cost

          We have 5 tiers of rates based on single use, so whether you use the room for 1 hour or 8 hours you pay the same rate. The multiplier is in (). External Profit, non-profit (0.6), affiliated (alumni) (0.4), internal (0.2), students (0). Hope this helps.

          ——————————
          Filip Pongratz
          Associate Director, SFC Activities & Operations
          He/His/Him

          215.707.4362 (p)
          http://www.temple.edu/sfc

          Original Message:
          Sent: 01-26-2022 17:52
          From: Lesa Radtke
          Subject: Methodology in determining meeting/event space rental fee

          Hello from the University of Minnesota- Duluth!  We are re-evaluating our meeting and event space rental fees and are curious how other student centers have determined their rates?  Ours have not gone up in my time here so I am not certain how the rates were established initially. For context, we have three pricing structures: one for student organizations (free use of space unless they charge for event admission); departments (pay a reduced fee); and external guests. Our rates are either half day (up to 4 hours) or full day. Is anyone willing to share their methodology or formula in determining rates?

          Thank you!

          ——————————
          Lesa Radtke
          Associate Director of Events and Conferences
          University of Minnesota?Duluth
          Duluth MN
          ——————————

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